[guiriduro]

What's "down" about environmentalism? Even thalidomide has its virtues, e.g. in Lupus treatment. You just should never give it to pregnant mothers.

[pjc50]

There's what people sometimes call the dark green / bright green distinction: can we solve the problems caused by technology with other, different, technology?

Environmentalism and precautionary principle thinking in general steer away from techno-optimism by asking "what could go wrong with this?"