[verandaguy]

It’s a shortcut that deprives the network owner of agency. As the person running the network, should you not have some degree of control over who gets to join your network, be it fully open, fully closed, or anywhere in between?

[nlawalker]

> It’s a shortcut that deprives the network owner of agency.

It doesn’t, they have exactly as much agency as they would if the shortcut didn’t exist.

> As the person running the network, should you not have some degree of control over who gets to join your network, be it fully open, fully closed, or anywhere in between?

If you want more control than a shareable password provides, it’s on you to implement something other than a shareable password. A feature that merely helps people share passwords doesn’t change that.

[kalleboo]

If you need control over who joins your network, implement 802.1x or a captive portal or something. If you just use a WPA key, people will always share them, you can't stop them, there are literally crowdsourced online databases of "free internet" WiFi keys

[throwaway3306a]

Use RADIUS then. If you told someone the password, they can share it

[ClassyJacket]

The guests could already simply tell each other the password

[sussmannbaka]

You have that control: allowlist individual devices

[austhrow743]

How does it change the network owners ability to decide who gets to join their network?