[zulban]

I imagine a world where a 19 year old takes a few courses in first aid, child psychology basics, and now they're a licensed "class supervisor". They aren't university educated but the AI is what offers personalized learning and expertise to the students.

Most teachers today aren't experts anyway, we just pretend they are. So I'm not sure "replaced by AI" is the right way to frame the conversation. Instead, it may change education.

[freejazz]

> Most teachers today aren't experts anyway, we just pretend they are

Experts in what, grade school math? Do you mean professors?

[zulban]

In anything. Like math, or math education. I was a teacher for years and studied education and I've seen some shit. The acceptance criteria for education degrees is often the lowest of any field in colleges/universities. The pay is extremely low. Great teachers exist, but often teaching is just a backup career for non-experts that don't know what else to do.

Outside North America teachers are sometimes respected and paid as professionals like a doctor or lawyer. Here they're more likely the butt end of a joke. You don't need to be an expert in anything to be a teacher in NA, generally.

[freejazz]

Sorry, but you didn't really answer the question. What would they be in an expert in? Grade school math?

[visarga]

I think online courses and AI education need the kind of supervision you mentioned. But they should also be able to give career advice, not just watch the room and push students to focus.

[zulban]

I'm not talking about the perfect classroom. I'm talking about something that could realistically be better than the ludicrously underfunded garbage we have today.

[whimsicalism]

My urban public school basically spent as much per year for me as it cost for me to go to Harvard. I am not convinced of this ‘underfunded’ as root of problem thesis.

[meindnoch]

Sounds fucking afwul to be frank.

[zulban]

Far better than many classrooms in North America today tho. Folks who disagree simply don't know anything about the huge waste of time that many kids are put through everyday.

[bruce343434]

> Most teachers today aren't experts anyway

Lmao what

[zulban]

Yes. Teachers in North America are not respected or paid as professionals. The typical university acceptance criteria to become a teacher is very low. The pay is rock bottom.

Great teachers exist too but generally teachers are not experts in anything, including teaching.

[eldaisfish]

this place is filled with people who are motivated to learn for themselves which creates a huge sampling bias.

You will see this come up in all sorts of discussion and i find it enlightening as to how exactly the decisions behind modern software are made.

Too many here fail to realise that real life has all sorts of edge cases and exceptions, including bad teachers.

Claiming that most teachers aren't experts is just another example of this. One student learns more about one narrow topic and then dismisses the teacher's broader, but shallower knowledge as being that of a non-expert.

Typical of the general population, myself included.

[whimsicalism]

You all clearly went to excellent schools, because as someone who went to a low performing urban one, what they’re saying is obviously true to me.

[zulban]

> One student learns more about one narrow topic and then dismisses the teacher's broader, but shallower knowledge as being that of a non-expert.

Perhaps you're talking about me (I said teachers are generally not experts in anything). I was a teacher for a few years and got a master's degree in education. That doesn't mean I'm right but I don't think it's smart to dismiss people on the internet as "probably just some dismissive student with narrow expert knowledge". I don't think I'm "general population" on this subject.

Teaching in North America has low professional requirements and even lower pay. The profession gets almost no respect. As a result, experts in anything (including experts in education) are pushed out of the career because it's a shitshow.