[3l3ktr4]

>And Mozilla leadership is associated with radical left politics, just as an extra.

Do you have proof for this? I'd be curious. I also fail to see how is that related to the collecting data by default thing. Is that a leftist thing now?

[mightyham]

Whether you agree or disagree with what the Mozilla foundation does, it seems fairly matter of fact to say that they are pursuing liberal policies and that posts from the leadership, like the couple below, employ a good bit of leftist rhetoric.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/first-steps-toward-lasti... https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozilla-racia...

[account42]

There is also this "classic": https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat...

[Ensorceled]

Pretty much every company has made such statements and policies, including some very much not "leftist" companies.

[freeone3000]

Seems like standard centre-left to me: no issues with current ideas of capital or governance structures at all!

[beepbooptheory]

Getting people to identify corporate PR speak with "radical leftist rhetoric" is perhaps one of the most darkly genius angles of the conservative culture war in recent memory.

Who even read these dumb company blogs before this?

[freeone3000]

Quick primer:

Radical right: “Almost nothing great has ever been done in the world except by the genius and firmness of a single man combating the prejudices of the multitude.”

Far-right: “I know there are some who become sick when they see black uniforms… but those who come to fear us at any time must have a guilty conscience before the nation.”

Right: “This means that every Canadian will see their income taxes go down. This means more money to pay the bills, to save up for your kids' education or maybe even finally afford a family vacation.”

Centre: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other.”

Left: “To put it bluntly, no one should be faced with a choice that says, in effect, “your money or your life”. “

far left: “ The role of the police and the military is growing, and the links between these enforcers of ruling class power and far-right and fascist parties and movements, are becoming more visible.”

Radical left: “ They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”

[bawolff]

Weird how that is considered radical left now.

When i think of radical left, i think of the proletariat rising up and freeing itself from its chains.

The only radical left thing about mozilla is the iconography in its original logo.

[shrimp_emoji]

Socially left in the American sense (same with "liberal"). You're just insisting on the Old World economic sense, which is totally irrelevant in America.

Oppressing workers is fine, but it better be inclusive oppression.

[bawolff]

Sure, but there is a big difference between "left" and "radical left"

[bawolff]

Personally i'd rather judge people by the things they do (or fail to do), not who they are associated with.

[V__]

Maybe they mean this statement, however I don't see why their proposed changes are radical.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat...