[racional]

You were starting to get a bit slippery there with that attempted rewording of that rather peculiar claim you made.

That was my point, stated much more clearly this time.

[kelseyfrog]

I'm really getting a sense that you're trying to catch me in some sort of contradiction. Why don't you get curious instead? That's the sort of community we're trying to create.

[racional]

Okay, let's try curiosity then:

"Didya really mean to say that there's literally no one walking this Earth with meaningful criticisms of Marx who has in fact also read what he's written? "Without being hyperbolic", no less?" 'Cause it sounds like an awfully weird and authoritarian thing to say."

Inquiring minds want to know.

[kelseyfrog]

I didn't say walking the earth, I said that I've encountered. Can you please not reword what I've written and then dismiss it. It's not showing a good faith effort.

I find it hard to believe you're more of an authority over who've I've encounter than I am.

It's a really good example of the point I'm trying to make. Which is folks who dismiss Marx tend to conjure a fantasy and then dismiss that fantasy and then claim victory. Just take what I write at face value. I'm not trying to trick you or anything.

[racional]

Folks who dismiss Marx tend to conjure a fantasy and then dismiss that fantasy and then claim victory.

That's what you're saying now; initially you said something much stronger.

You keep trying to pivot away from that initial (and rather untenable) formulation, for some reason.