[theamk]

Have you seen "good vs services employment" graphs, like this one? [0]

Number of people producing goods has been shrinking for a longest time, its under 20% now. It'll likely keep shrinking as automation becomes more advanced, and in the future "service" would be much more important.

When I was a kid, I've read some sci-fi stories about societies like those, where most people were working in service industry.

[0] https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2023/09/0...

[hammock]

That graph is US only

[vivekd]

Good point - the graph being US only means it misses offshoring manufacturing jobs to places like China. We can't assume that the loss of manufacturing jobs was solely caused by automation

[eru]

Why call it 'loss', if it was outsourced? UnAmericans are also human.

[TOMDM]

Where else would you apply this reasoning? If I lose my phone it doesn't stop being a phone...

[eru]

Yes, but it's probably useless for anyone else (because of locking).

And if you break your phone, it stops being a (useful) phone.

[TOMDM]

Good thing nobody's talking about breaking or locking jobs then.

[trealira]

Why do you think the word "loss" implies they think non-Americans aren't human?

[justinclift]

Pretty sure the point was that the jobs are just being moved around, not "lost".

[eru]

I was specifically interested in the contrast to automation alluded to in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40970901

A job can be truly 'lost' if it's replaced by a machine. But it's merely reshuffled, if a foreigner does it.