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by incomingpain 700 days ago
>How the hell did we get here?

Lets go backwards.

Messaging from the democrat side has been that trump is a threat to democracy, he's a fascist nazi, etc etc. You've seen the vilification. Days prior Biden literally said to put Trump in the bullseye and 'elimination' is necessary. Biden has withdrawn all these ads.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-polarization-of-politic...

Political polarization is primarily derived from the democrat side.

Echo chambers are mostly democrat sided. Reddit for example having banned r/thedonald for example. Each side now lives separately and aren't talking to each other except to dunk on each other's dumbest candidates. John Stewart's fault.

The fix here has to come from the democrat side, end the identity politics, and start preaching unity, democracy, and everyone is on the same team. It does seem that they have shifted their messaging, but to change your messaging strategy 3 months before the election is rather election ending.

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> Political polarization is primarily derived from the democrat side.

Say what? (Even the article you cite does not support your claim.)

> Echo chambers are mostly democrat sided.

Double what?

There is plenty of villification coming from Trump and the right. (Read his speeches.) There is plenty of violent rhetoric on the right. There is a big echo chamber on the right. If you don't see it, maybe you're in an echo chamber?

> Echo chambers are mostly democrat sided.

What are your thoughts on Qanon and Pizzagate?

Echo chambers exist on both sides. It's human nature to align yourself with a tribe and denounce everything that goes against it. Most people just don't have the self awareness to notice when it's happening to them.

> Political polarization is primarily derived from the democrat side.

You're really going to say that, while Trump sends out campaign emails like this?

> BIDEN'S DAY OF RECKONING IS COMING

> He tried to publicly torture and humiliate me ... BUT HE FAILED.

> He tried to raid my home and take me out with deadly force... BUT HE FAILED.

> He tried to bury me with so many witch hunts that I'd be forced to quit... BUT HE FAILED.

> STAND WITH TRUMP

> 34 RIGGED FELONY CONVICTIONS calls for an unprecedented response.

> And if our response to his tyrannical regime isn't MASSIVE, Biden will move onto his next target: YOU!

> THEY WANT TO SENTENCE ME TO DEATH!

> You know they’d do it if they could, but Crooked Joe’s team of lowlifes and radical left thugs will settle for a LIFE SENTENCE. ...

> Remember, it’s not me they’re after…

> THEY’RE AFTER YOU - I’M JUST STANDING IN THEIR WAY!

> But with your support,

> I’ll NEVER give up.

> I’LL NEVER SURRENDER! ...

> Your support is the only thing standing between the Biden regime and their ultimate goal of DESTROYING AMERICA ONCE AND FOR ALL.

This sort of rhetoric is standard. Seems like everyone has just forgotten about it.

>You're really going to say that, while Trump sends out campaign emails like this?

All of your examples are actions against him or completely reasonable things to say like "STAND WITH TRUMP"

> THEY WANT TO SENTENCE ME TO DEATH!

Not prophetic, the number of people who see Trump as a fascist threat that needs to be stopped is huge.

>This sort of rhetoric is standard. Seems like everyone has just forgotten about it.

The end of my post was the important one. The Biden team has changed their messaging. I guarantee the media will do the same. But this isn't the group im talking about who has to change.

Given your response here and I'm guessing you're average... so the democrats won't be. So what's the consequences?

For one, that was a campaign email, so it's one example.

You're going to take this position, whatever. But nothing said about Trump has been false. Democratic leaders shouldn't be apologizing for anything, but I'm sure they will.