[pjc50]

I think one of the things COVID and the subsequent WFH discussion highlighted for me is how much there's a certain kind of person, often managers, who have a lot of meetings and use them for socialization. The irrelevant minutes of chatting about last night's football or whatever is an important thing for them.

And some of that is important! I'm not going to go full robot and say that all comms must be professional-only. But there's a tension between people who like that and people who don't, and cameras make it worse because you're under surveillance for whether or not you're doing something else instead of not participating in a chat you can't be bothered with.

[Suppafly]

>I think one of the things COVID and the subsequent WFH discussion highlighted for me is how much there's a certain kind of person, often managers, who have a lot of meetings and use them for socialization.

I constantly say that the push against WFH is all coming from extroverts that are mad that they can't steal energy from the rest of us.

[icedchai]

They do it anyway, with excess meetings and increased amounts of BS. Example: How many "check-ins" can you possibly need for a 3 person project? It is mentally draining for people trying to get real work done.

[Suppafly]

Right, I'm on one project right now that 3 meetings a week, and one of them applies to my work and it really could be an email. Every simple project I'm on I quote 40 hours, where I assume it'll take me an hour or two to do the work and the rest will be meetings.