[chillinOverHere]

Right, the very last thing I want is to be around "leadership." Instead of 80% of my day being politics, 150% of my day becomes politics. And let's add in the bonus of having to constantly listen to veritable losers insult employees all day, and suddenly have to know who's cheating on their spouse.

It's just more crap you have to protect and support in order to protect and support yourself.

I think people who have been in offices their entire lives and have never done physical labor may have psychological damage. This is basically how "Karens" are born. There's usually a better shot that veterans, people who grew up on a farm, or came from some rough jobs are better to work with.

First of all, you can talk to them like human beings, rather than having to put on a customer service mask in order to avoid getting a target on your back.

They also know the value of work, and that stuff gets done from work. Not everyone knows this. Some people think talking gets work done. Just schedule another meeting. Let's do 3/day until it gets done.

This isn't me, and it never will be.