[paulmd]

Gosh, if only there was a device vendor who didn’t do that, and offered the option for encrypted cloud backups and e2e encryption for all your inter-device traffic, and designed their privacy-sensitive services to work on anonymized tokens instead of device identifiers or user accounts…

… but apple sells ads too therefore every option is equally bad!

It’s funny to see people admit with the AI stuff that apple is getting it right, introducing privacy-protecting approaches and services, etc, yet refuse to admit that the same perspective and approaches have informed all their services for a long time. In the day to day, there is no legitimate debate that Apple Maps is vastly more privacy preserving than google maps, etc. People use some weird purity test where because App Store ads exist suddenly apple is the same as a literal adtech company.

[alemanek]

If Apple still made a router I would buy it. But they don’t…

A new AirPort Extreme with an M Series I would be all over that though.

[account42]

> … but apple sells ads too therefore every option is equally bad!

Yes.

It also doesn't help that said device vendor has been trying to destroy computing freedom while sabotaging open standards left and right.

> It’s funny to see people admit with the AI stuff that apple is getting it right, introducing privacy-protecting approaches and services, etc, yet refuse to admit that the same perspective and approaches have informed all their services for a long time.

It's funny that different people on the Internet express different and sometimes conflicting opinions?