[kapp_in_life]

Sure, but many people who are bad at art and writing would like AI to make art and writing that's tailored to their tastes and are fine doing laundry and dishes since they're good at that and we have already automated 99% of it with dishwashers and dryers.

[yuppiepuppie]

The actual washing of the dishes we have automated, not the loading unloading, folding of clothes and organizing them in my closet. I spend at least 1 hour a week on that stuff… ~52hours per year I could be doing art and writing.

[TeMPOraL]

1 hour a week means you live alone. Add a partner and a kid or two, and someone will be spending one hour a day on unloading and sorting laundry into right wardrobes.

(On average. Realistically, it's more like a day and a half every two weeks or something).

Chores are terrible life suckers, and I for one subscribe to the notion of eliminating them with technology.

[dsr_]

You missed the point.

One of those scenarios is available. The other isn't even being worked on in any serious fashion.

And you definitely don't get to tell people that your product is just fine, they are wrong for wanting something else.

[ben_w]

> The other isn't even being worked on in any serious fashion.

It is being worked on, it's just hard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pycyMUQwiNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1QZB5baNw&t=34s

I'm expecting a minimum of 5-10 years to pass between real-time vision AI getting good enough for level-5 autonomous cars and the same stuff fitting into the power envelope available to this kind of domestic robot.

[kapp_in_life]

>And you definitely don't get to tell people that your product is just fine, they are wrong for wanting something else.

The original quote does that as well and I only reversed it to give the perspective of increative people :)

[falcolas]

> many people who are bad at art and writing

The thing is, you can get better at these. They are just creative skills that get better with practice (much like coding et.al.). And the skill will let you do things you can't do with AI.

> are fine doing laundry and dishes since they're good at that and we have already automated 99% of it with dishwashers and dryers.

With the minimal amount of sarcasm or ill intent possible: what are you doing with that spare time if not improving skills you clearly want the output of?

[lovethevoid]

You can also get better at those skills while also using AI. It’s not really an absolute. You can generate outlines sketches so you can practice shading techniques as a simple example.

There are also those who don’t want to get better at those skills, as those skills are just a temporary medium. For example someone making pottery might be terrible at drawing and creating ideas, so they generate some and then get to working with clay. Essentially, references.

[falcolas]

Using AI is not free, in either price nor time. If all the time spent iterating over prompts to get the "right" output was instead spent working on skills, you (the royal you) could get a lot better at drawing/writing right off the bat.

I've lurked through a few AI art boards, and the number of times people will spend dozens if not hundreds of hours iterating through prompts to get a simple anime character just right is mind boggling.

Can AI create references? Certainly. Will they be more detailed than what a potter can create in a similar timeframe? Probably. Will they be accurate to the potter's desire? Probably not.

[ben_w]

> Using AI is not free, in either price nor time. If all the time spent iterating over prompts to get the "right" output was instead spent working on skills, you (the royal you) could get a lot better at drawing/writing right off the bat.

Eventually, by practice, a person can get better at art.

I've seen (pre-AI) artists spending dozens of hours just on icons, so the idea of artists spending hundreds of hours perfecting every detail of some character doesn't seem surprising, not even when the specific details really can be done by a better method than repeatedly changing the prompt.

Conversely, even when I use an app on my phone for GenAI, it's making images in perhaps 90 seconds, vs. the entire day that my GCSE* art class gave the students to create the final project — even with the need to have multiple attempts or prompt variations, the AI just gets stuff done too fast for me to learn much in the same time period.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCSE

[relaxing]

Did you really just write most people are fine with doing chores and think that they are good at them?