[cobertos]

I think removal of adversity was the point. Optimizing away adversity just as collective humanity tries to.

> Incidentally, after Universe 25’s collapse, Calhoun began building new utopias to encourage creative behavior by keeping mice physically _and_ mentally nourished.

I think I'd be more interested in the follow up work. Were they even able to identify and accomplish this? And how did the rats perform any better?

[shermantanktop]

There’s a documentary about it called “Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH.”