[dgfitz]

Well you did say: it’s much simpler and easier than C++

And if the basis of c++ is c with classes, you’re horribly incorrect. C is a small language, easy to understand and hard to master.

Rust is fucking miserable to understand, and as such, hard to master.

Why are you being pedantic?

[umanwizard]

C++ isn't "C with classes" and hasn't been for years. Yes, Rust is bigger and more complicated than C, but much less so than C++.

> Why are you being pedantic?

I'm not. I'm making a real point: Rust is much simpler and easier than C++, so the spirit of Bjarne's quote, which is that for a language to become popular it necessarily has to have as many drawbacks as C++, is wrong.

[smrq]

"Rust is more complicated than C++" is a pretty hot take.