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It absolutely is true! You can certainly argue that different languages get different levels of complaints and hate, but every language that anyone uses gets a non-zero amount of complaints, regardless of severity. > Sure, Python is slow, packaging/versioning is painful Those are complaints. That is evidence that people complain about Python. You just did it yourself. But maybe your complaints about C++ are an order of magnitude more plentiful than for Python. And maybe quite a few of your C++ complaints are about much worse things. But that's not the point: they are all complaints. And that's the problem with the Stroustrup quote: he's implicitly saying that all complaints are created equal, and there's no difference between having 10 complaints or 10,000 complaints (where 3 of the first are major, and 5,000 of the second are major). It's used, as the GP points out, to shut down legitimate complaints. "Oh, you don't like $REALLY_BIG_HORRIBLE_ISSUE with my language? Psh, whatever, people complain about all languages, I dare you to find another language that you won't find something to complain about." Not the point! Is $REALLY_BIG_HORRIBLE_ISSUE a problem or not? If not, actually explain and justify, with specific arguments, why you don't think it's a problem. And if you do agree it's a problem, stop deflecting attention, admit that's it's a problem, and try to find a solution! |