[rsynnott]

> Another example: in 2009 light bulbs were banned in the EU. I know quite a lot of people who still deeply hate the EU for this.

Might just be different circles/different attitudes in Ireland vs wherever you are, but I have never met an actual human in real life who is annoyed about the death of incandescent light bulbs. I've seen it from people on the internet, but to be honest mostly from Americans.

[ben_w]

I've met one person in real life (if Cambridge UK counts as "real life" :P) who was vocal about preferring incandescent to energy saving; you will probably be unsurprised to learn that they voted Leave.

[aleph_minus_one]

Indeed: there exist quite some very vocal people who deeply abhor being patronised (e.g. by the EU).

[ben_w]

Patronised?

I could see why people might feel that way about seatbelts (e.g. people feeling "don't tell me I'm a bad driver!"), but I don't see how that feeling could attach to environmental issues like the aggregate emissions from (reducing from 100W to 10W * 2.5h/day * about 1 bulb/person * 400 million people =) 3.75 GW over the continent?

[rsynnott]

Well, I think to some extent, the eurosceptic UK tendency, encouraged by the tabloids, was to seek out things to be offended by (sometimes simply making them up; see bendy bananas.)

Never really heard of this anywhere in Europe _outside_ the UK, tho.

[thebruce87m]

At first the LED replacements were shit, some didn’t turn on immediately, didn’t dim and so on. It’s not that I wanted to go back, but they weren’t a good replacement. I don’t see as many issues now though.