[PaulHoule]

Also I see the hiring manager can take a lot of responsibility in terms of the first or the firm can take on an outside recruiter, which is often a good idea, because the outside recruiter has a financial incentive to succeed and can help a firm cut through bullshit why it won't hire this person or that person.

[nicksbg]

Exactly. Plus the external recruiter is dependent on the hiring performance. At the end of the day, the external recruiter does not have luxury to hire a bad candidate like a internal talent manager, since that can kill contract and possible future recommendations to other clients.