[ffsm8]

VPN are pointless for the vast majority of people.

You're essentially just shifting the person you're trusting from your ISP to proton.

Downloading copyrighted media is pretty much the only usecase I can think of for such a service, and most people don't do that.

The only other usecase would be to conceal your traffic on a public wifi, but you'd be better served just going through your home connection at that point. Pretty much all decent routers provide you with dyndns+VPN services builtin

[WithinReason]

In the UK your ISP is obligated to log all your DNS queries and make it accessible to a large number of government agencies without a warrant. Your VPN provider makes money from not being able to provide that data, many times proven in court. They are not at all comparable.

[sitkack]

That is like your opinion, man.

VPNs are critical for getting around shenanigans when working out in the world. Especially from sketchy last miles.

[ffsm8]

You're right, I forgot geo blocking entirely as all services I've used it on added mitigations over the years.

The last time I've successfully used a VPN for that was around 2015, but there might be services around (which I just dont use) that can still be unlocked by changing the IP, so that'd be a valid usecase for a few people

[digging]

> Pretty much all decent routers provide you with dyndns+VPN services builtin

Most people don't know how to use that or that it even exists. Hell, I didn't know it existed until right now and I'm decently tech savvy.

> You're essentially just shifting the person you're trusting from your ISP to proton.

Yes absolutely, this is the reason I use a VPN. I have negative trust of every ISP in the USA. They will harvest and sell your browsing history to anyone who will buy it. I have no doubt about that. Some VPN providers probably won't.

[Multiplayer]

Apparently you have never tried to access an "adult service" from Louisiana. :)

[devilbunny]

ProtonVPN is faster than my home (usually) and is very easy to teach my wife how to use. And usually faster than those VPN-server-on-router protocols.

[balls187]

Avoid region restrictions are the biggest usecase. A number of my friends use VPNs exclusively for this purpose, geberally because they are big sports fans.