[delhanty]

Creatine and caffeine possibly have a negative interaction - search PubMed for papers - eg

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26219105/

I’m very slow and stiff in the mornings and I drink a lot of black coffee to mitigate that.

Then, late afternoon, perhaps 6 to hours later, I take my creatine monohydrate for the day just before my ocean swim.