[bentobean]

On October 7, 2023, terrorists invaded Israel and killed 1,143 people. Among them - 767 civilians (36 children). Some of them were brutally raped. They then took 251 hostages.

The officially stated goal of Hamas is the destruction of Israel.

War is never pleasant or desirable. That said, Israel has every right to defend itself and to fight for the return of its people.

Your position is that Israel should lay down and die. Any attempt to do otherwise is then disingenuously labeled as “genocide.”

The argument you are making is ridiculous. Fortunately, most people recognize that.

[superb_dev]

My position is that Israel is recklessly killing anyone and everyone with little discretion. They are not at war with Hamas, they’re removing everyone in Palestine that they don’t like (oh and sometimes the hostages they’re supposedly trying to save[1]).

They’ve killed innocent civilians[2], health workers[3], and journalists[4] all in record numbers. They have not shied away from war crimes and humanitarian abuses [5].

Israel has every right to defend itself, but this has gone so far beyond that. There is no action that justifies this brutal of a reaction.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-troops-kil...

[2] https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/04/gaza-israeli-strike-kill...

[3] https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/seven-months-re...

[4] https://cpj.org/2024/07/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-...

[5] https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-af...