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by richrichie 718 days ago
Is Soviet Union and Russia the same? BTW, Ukraine and a bunch of other now sovereign Eastern European countries were part of the "invasive behavior" that you allude to. I hear Stalin was a Georgian.

If you really did go back 200 years before NATO, you might be surprised to learn about the conflict ridden European history. The French were prolific invaders, for example. They still run colonies in far away places.
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frankvdwaal 718 days ago
> Is Soviet Union and Russia the same?

Excellent question. Let's ask the person who justified Russia's invasion by saying that NATO contravened its non-expansion guarantee to the Soviet Union.

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bdjsiqoocwk 718 days ago
LOL I hadn't heard that one before, excellent.
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bdjsiqoocwk 718 days ago
> Is Soviet Union and Russia the same?

Russia is controlled by people with the same worldview as the people who controlled the Soviet Union. So in a sense, yes.

That worldview to be clear is "Russia is destined to be great, but the entire world is conspiring to bring it down". Stalin had been using the phrase "capitalist encirclement" since some point in the 20s. Nowadays it's "NATO encroachment". It's not an argument to be engaged in good faith by anyone who's paying attention.

The "Soviet Union" was a tool invented by Stalin to bring under his control the people that he couldn't assimilate into Russia directly. Yes, they're the same thing.

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richrichie 718 days ago
Stalin was a Georgian.
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lksjdflkjlvksj 718 days ago
What does that have to do with literally anything?

Stalin was born in Georgia, hid his accent, had the state photographers airbrush his Georgian features (arched nose, chin, and brow) to look more Russian, personally ensured that Georgia was absorbed into Russia, and made Russian the only allowed language in Georgia.

So what? What's your point? You're just trying to distract from the point that matters, which is that the people currently in power in Russia had exactly the same worldview as the people in power in the Soviet Union, which is that "Russia is destined to be great, but the rest of the world is conspiring to bring it down". This applies to Putin, Stalin, and anyone who has any power in Russia.

"but but but stalin was georgian". Fucking ignoramus.

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dzhiurgis 718 days ago
> Is Soviet Union and Russia the same

Yes.

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