[shiroiushi]

Who's "we"? This was about a private Lutheran school. It's ridiculous of course, but if you sign up for a private school, you have to put up with whatever ridiculous BS they want to push on you, no matter how medieval. My question is: why are these people sending their kids to this shitty school? This is the whole reason public education exists.

[39896880]

Public schools aren’t very good on reservations.

[shiroiushi]

I would think that just about any school would be better than a school which teaches kids their traditional ceremonies are "devil worship". If the schools are that bad, you're better off resorting to home-schooling.

[qarl]

I'm not sure what your point is. "We" are collective humanity. These things seem to be happening more and more. Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

[shiroiushi]

>"We" are collective humanity.

No, "we" are not. This kind of silliness doesn't happen in most civilized places. Even in the US. This incident is an outlier.

>These things seem to be happening more and more.

Go back 100 years and you'll see it was much worse. Sure, parts of the US seem to be backsliding a bit, but that doesn't mean every place is. 95% of the world's population lives outside the US, remember.

>Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

Maybe in some particularly backwards parts of the US. That doesn't generalize to everywhere.

>I'm not sure what your point is.

My point is that if you put your kid in a private, religious school run by a bunch of backwards religious nutcases, you shouldn't be surprised when they tell you insane, ridiculous stuff such as traditional Native American ceremonies being "devil worship". I'm sure there's other crazy religious schools in the US much like this, but we don't normally hear about it because the parents actually subscribe fully to the religious ideology, and because they're a small part of the population anyway: most people just send their kids to (secular) public schools.

[qarl]

> This incident is an outlier.

I disagree. From my perspective, things that I could never imagine happening in the U.S. are happening with increasing frequency. I could cite an extensive list, but the list is already well known - I can only imagine you're in some kind of denial.

Add this item to the list and wait for the next, tomorrow.

[shiroiushi]

I agree there's a lot of crazy stuff happening in the US these days, but this just isn't an example of it. This school, and these crappy christian churches trying to brainwash Native Americans out of their culture, is nothing new; it's been going on since the late 1800s. This particular place and what's happening there looks like nothing's changed in over 100 years. Why the Native Americans there continue to put up with this BS after all this time, and don't just kick these assholes out of their reservation, is beyond me.

It has absolutely nothing to do with things like abortion being banned in many states due to a SCOTUS decision, the ever-growing polarization, etc.

[qarl]

> It has absolutely nothing to do with...

Christian abuse has nothing to do with rising Christian Nationalism?

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree. You have a nice day.

[shiroiushi]

No, it really doesn't, when the exact same abuse has been happening for a century at this location. Do you think the FLDS is also a product of rising Christian nationalism? If you want to blame everything on current events, you can believe what you want.

[Bonolio]

The bigger problem, at least in my opinion, is that these outliers are more emboldened with their opinions in recent years.

[defrost]

Less emboldened in comparison with the 1900s - 1940s.

The heyday of Residential Schools and indigenous removal programs across Canada, the US, Australia, etc was mainstream and a slick industrialised pipeline of capturing children to beat the Indian from them (actual quote).

There might well be some recent uptake towards that direction, but back in the day these were not outliers, these were central government programs backed by church and "science" (eugenic based arguments).