[idrathernot]

So now they’ll just import the meat from places with even less environmental concern.

Not that it matters as the people who support these types of broad punitive measures are mostly just virtue seeking idiots who only care about complex issues to the extent it can be used to advertise their own feelings of moral superiority.

[jacobgorm]

Most meat produced by Danish farmers gets exported to countries like China. Only a small fraction gets consumed by Danes in Denmark. The pigs are transported alive to meat packing plants in Germany and Poland where wages are lower, and most farm hands in Denmark are cheap imported labor who often live under slave live conditions.

[yza]

As a Ukrainian growing up and still living in Denmark and who has spoken to other Ukrainians working at those farms, I have never heard of “slave like conditions”. I’ve heard of hard manual labour and occasional disagreements with the owners of the farms though

[jacobgorm]

Here is example https://fagbladet3f.dk/nu-faar-han-efterbetalt-loen/

[marcuskane2]

This is an egregious ad-hominem attack, which is both against HN guidelines and a failure of rational discourse.

The people who want to reduce pollution most likely just want to reduce the harms associated with that pollution, not your wacky accusation of their motives. And even if someone's motives were some weird bad thing, if their actions are good (eg, helping us all live better lives in a lower-pollution world) that would still be a good thing.

[atlasy1]

I think most here can see the people pushing climate problems keep moving the goal posts and seem hallbent on just making it more difficult to produce food.

When we post solutions to their problems to areas of a well rounded discussion, they enter into a backs against the wall mindset , posting paragraphs and paragraphs back to us with any wacky counter arguments and not picking of the solution they can think of.

In this thread it was “we don’t have enough seaweed” and then they went trawling the internet for opinion pieces to try and back themselves up and reply within minutes.

A person with good intentions and who was genuinely interested in solving the problem would take more time and research papers that support and go against the solution and make a more balanced response to the good news they were given.

There are billions of people starving in this world. The parent comment is correct to question the motives of these people. I get the impression these people are dressing up satanism or communism as green policies. The same smell we all get when people push absurb woke policies.