[TacticalCoder]

> PLEASE, fire the moron in Rivian (the CEO?) who doesn't want to integrate CarPlay/AndroidAuto.

I'm in my car to go from point A to point B, not to be entertained by Google or Apple.

Is Google Maps okay'ish for nav? Yup. Is it better than, say, Porsche's previous nav system: not really.

Is Google Maps, in the EU, better at indicating speed traps than my (legal) "Coyote" system: no, definitely not.

To me AndroidAuto and CarPlay are fucking gizmos.

The one thing that counts to me is how pleasant the car is to drive and its safety. On that later point arguably a car that does not have a Google/Apple tablet in its dashboard is safer than the same car that does.

I understand that we're in a FB/Instagram/WhatsApp society but maybe, just maybe, that when you're driving is the time to...

Disconnect?

P.S: if anyone comes out saying "but music", I'll answer this: my car has a better soundsystem than yours and it's not using AndroidAuto/CarPlay. It's some stuff working on top of the QNX OS. The point is the same: I care about the quality of the sound/music (so much that I basically bought a high-end limousine for its soundsystem/sound insulation), not about how I select it.

[JumpCrisscross]

> On that later point arguably a car that does not have a Google/Apple tablet in its dashboard is safer than the same car that does

Speaking anecdotally, having CarPlay work on a rental means I can just talk to Siri. Having to futz with the car's own system, on the other hand, means lots of time not looking at the road.

[cyberax]

> Is Google Maps, in the EU, better at indicating speed traps than my (legal) "Coyote" system: no, definitely not.

Here's the thing. Tesla does not have speed trap detection. And so you're screwed, there's NOTHING you can do with the built-in software. Your only recourse is to go and cry at Musk's feet to add the function.

With AA/CarPlay, I can just switch to a different software. E.g. Sygic supports speed traps in multiple countries, and it has fully offline maps.

Tesla's maps become a gray box once it loses the data connectivity. And in 4 years, you'll be paying $10 a month to have maps _at_ _all_ because the Standard Connectivity will not be free anymore.

Great, ain't it?

> my car has a better soundsystem than yours and it's not using AndroidAuto/CarPlay

Android Auto / CarPlay can transmit the lossless audio stream.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Your only recourse is to go and cry at Musk's feet to add the function

You could...not speed. (Unless your cops are psychotic about 5 over.)

[cyberax]

Sure. I don't speed, my last speeding ticket was more than 10 years ago (for doing 80 in a 70 mph zone on a freeway).

I just provided it as an example.

[nunez]

They just added speed traps.

[sliken]

It's in Tesla update 2023.27.12 (been out for awhile).

[jwells89]

The thing about car infotainment is that on average, it’s not good, and even when it is, it is until it’s not. Support timelines for dash systems have traditionally been awful, which leads to them becoming outdated and progressively more useless as time goes on, well before the end of the vehicle’s usefulness. Even worse, with how deeply the infotainment ties into the operation of the vehicle these days, third party head unit replacements to fix this issue aren’t practical.

It’s also another thing to have to log everything into which is a pain and has to be repeated for each person frequently driving the vehicle.

CarPlay/Android Auto avoid both nicely.

Now of course I’d trust Tesla or Rivian to not pull support prematurely more than any traditional automaker, but it’s still a risk regardless of brand.