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I would say the main alternative is ash not vulkano, from my experience in experimenting with graphics on rust, I haven't seen much support or like for vulkano as it has many of the same performance issues as wgpu and doesn't simplify too much after the trade off of the lack of resources, it also appears embark was using ash atleast for kajiya. I have encounter a lot of your posts and that's what pushed me towards just tackling vulkan instead of using wgpu. I also encountered many of the same issues around the ecosystem. I think the main issue is there is just not enough dev time going into it or money. Even valoren, which I already knew of before learning rust from posts in linux/oss communities only has received 8k of funding, while offering the closest to an AA experience. But I don't think its that reasonable to expect the ecosystem to just have a batteries included performant general rendering solution, idk if any language has that? I know there is bgfx, which might be the closest thing but I assume also has its own issues. So I don't really think its the graphics part holding things back, as ash is a great wrapper around vulkan and maps 1-1 with a little bit of improvements (builders for structs, not needing to set stype for each struct, easy p chaining). The main issue I encounter is all around the lack of dev-time and the tendency for single developers and for small single purpose crates. Most of my friction is around lack of documentation, constant refactoring making that lack even worse, and this causing disjoint dependency trees. So many times have I encountered one create using version x.x of one crate that depends on x.y version of another then the next being on z.x of another dependency and then another still needing z.y. This normally wouldn't be that big of an issue, except the tendency to constantly introduce refactoring and breaking changes meaning I end up having to fork and fix these inter-dependencies myself and cant just patch them. But this all just circle back to there just isn't much dev time going into them. It also seems the "safety" concerns and rust just not allowing some things causes devs of many crates chasing their tails with refactors trying to work around these constraints. But it does get quite tiresome having to deal with all of these issues. If I was using c++ I could just use sdl/glfw, imgui, vma and vulkan and they would all be up to date with each other. In rust I need winit, imgui bindings, imgui-winit, imgui-vulkan, raw-window-handle, ash and vma bindings. And most of these are all using different versions of each other and half of them have breaking changes version to version. |