[keiferski]

The term hallucination is a fundamental misunderstanding of how LLMs work, and continuing to use it will ultimately result in a confused picture of what AI and AGI are and what is "actually happening" under the hood.

Wanting to use accurate language isn't exhausting, it's a requirement if you want to think about and discuss problems clearly.

[phist_mcgee]

Arguing about semantics rarely keeps topics on track, e.g, my reply to your comment.

[keiferski]

"Arguing about semantics" implies that there is no real difference between calling something A vs. calling it B.

I don't think that's the case here: there is a very real difference between describing something with a model that implies one (false) thing vs. a model that doesn't have that flaw.

If you don't find that convincing, then consider this: by taking the time to properly define things at the beginning, you'll save yourself a ton of time later on down the line – as you don't need to untangle the mess that resulted from being sloppy with definitions at the start.

This is all a long way of saying that aiming to clarify your thoughts is not the same as arguing pointlessly over definitions.

[andybak]

"Computer" used to mean the job done by a human being. We chose to use the meaning to refer to machines that did similar tasks. Nobody quibbles about it any more.

Words can mean more than one thing. And sometimes the new meaning is significantly different but once everyone accepts it, there's no confusion.

You're arguing that we shouldn't accept the new meaning - not that "it doesn't mean that" (because that's not how language works).

I think it's fine - we'll get used to it and it's close enough as a metaphor to work.

[its_ethan]

I'd be willing to bet that people did quibble about what "computer" meant at the time the meaning was transitioning.

It feels like you're assuming that we're already 60 years past re-defining "hallucination" and the consensus is established, but the fact that people are quibbling about it right now is a sign that the definition is currently in transition/ has not reached consensus.

What value is there in trying to shut down the consensus-seeking discussion that gave us "computer"? The same logic could be used arguing that "computers" are actually be called "calculators" and why are people still trying to call it a "computer"?