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by blackeyeblitzar 721 days ago
> That's kind of the problem with urban planning in many cities in the USA -- the "primary purpose" of roads is assumed to be to serve cars, rather than to serve people.

Serving cars is serving people. Who do you think is driving the cars or being driven in them?

As an aside, I am surprised that this exceedingly shallow point is still being made in 2024. Let's be honest - it never made sense, and was only ever brought up as an empty slogan to dishonestly dismiss those who depend on and benefit from cars (which is most of the public in most cities).

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> Serving cars is serving people. Who do you think is driving the cars or being driven in them?

From a strictly utilitarian perspective, you can serve more people in the same land space by other forms of transportation:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passengers_per_hour_per_direct...

If you have a budget of $x, do you want to move more or fewer people? Because private auto transportation ("cars") moves the lowest volume.

Further, cars interfere with things that may not have alternatives, like trucks that make deliveries. There tend to all sorts of options for individuals (and the average occupancy of a car is like 1.0) to move hither and thither and yon, but if you want to deliver a refrigerator or a sofa, that's a lot harder to do on public transit—though not unheard of:

* https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/01/couch-toronto-subway/

* https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/5erltx/apparently_...

>Serving cars is serving people

So is better transit, and biking, and even shutting off entire streets to cars and making them into pedestrian-only districts - and those can often serve more people than when it was just a road for cars.

Insane argument. Serving giant death mechas is serving people. Serving Houthi raiders is serving people. Serving Adolf Hitler is serving people - he's a person, right?