[sylware]

Huh.

Indeed, we agree.

We just need to do the hardest part: keep it clean and simple to not particularly discourage alternative implementations... on the long run.

[immibis]

For example, it's vitally important that wayland resists adding features like title bars, window icons, resize handles, desktop icons, or mouse cursors. These frivolous features have no place in a serious desktop environment! They are only bloat!

[ahartmetz]

...while also doing what users want and expect.

[sylware]

... while avoiding their tantrums which will most likely destroy that "clean and simple".

[immibis]

"tantrums" is when you expect windows to be delineated with borders apparently. You got the Wayland attitude down pat: are we the problem? No, it's the users who are wrong!

[sylware]

This does not concern wayland, this is a user choice, the choice of a wayland compositor.