[nomad-nigiri]

I’m pro-AI. I don’t really trust openAI to be the harbingers of AGI. But they earned that right (so far) by building and monetizing the initial breakthrough product. It’s been 2 years, has anyone actually lost their job to AI? I rarely see the midjourney images that were all the rage 6 months ago. Hiring less maybe causal. All companies pulled back after the boom times of ZIRP. Seems this is all much ado about nothing.

[zero-sharp]

Pretty sure you can find posts on this website of headlines from companies explicitly announcing layoffs due to AI.

[nomad-nigiri]

Links?

[zero-sharp]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39397058

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40624213

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38788328

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39922095

[vusjandus23857]

OP has a point...

First link is Cisco laying 4K to focus on AI. Not jobs replaced by AI. Second link is MSFT laying off 1500 doesn't say they were replaced by AI. Third link, read the comments, it's a reorg. Normal at big companies. Fourth link is a startup ceo who is replacing 2 interns...

[zero-sharp]

"The tech giant is planning to let go of 30000 employees from its ad sales unit after its recent advancements in artificial intelligence said president of the Americas and global partners Sean Downey last week. As per a news report, new innovations can automatically suggest and create ads for customers, requiring basically, no human intervention. This development renders the ad sales unit essentially redundant."

?????

>Fourth link is a startup ceo who is replacing 2 interns...

The question was whether there was job loss to AI.

[vusjandus23857]

I can't find any news stories about 30K jobs at Google going to AI. The references to the information are false. This leads me to believe this isn't a real story. If it was every news outlet would've reported on it.

[nomad-nigiri]

https://hn.algolia.com/?q=ai+layoffs

From the links on page 1-4 looks like companies are laying people off to invest in AI infra. That’s different than getting replaced by it. I just can’t think of a workflow that can be automated by “AI”

[nomad-nigiri]

ChatGPT is like a 3.0 version of grammerly or google auto complete. Has anyone done anything remarkable with it or because of it?

[throw310822]

Wow. I am astounded by this inability to think in perspective.

"This technology is already 2 years old, I don't see any societal changes yet, it must be much ado about nothing" must be one of the most superficial takes about technology I've ever read. Really, come on.

Just two things to consider:

1- it takes people and societies a long time to integrate and react to the possibilities offered by new technologies. A time easily measured in years, sometimes in decades.

2- the technology is rapidly evolving- faster than society is actually able to absorb it. Two years are really nothing. A child who was born the day GPT 2 was released has just started primary school, and will enter the job market between 15 and 20 years from today.

[nomad-nigiri]

Thanks for sharing your perspective, it’s broadened my own. I’m pro-ai, I believe in the potential. I was asking if GPTs or image generators have replaced human jobs yet. The loss of jobs seems like an over reaction. I personally think like all major tech breakthroughs it will create industries/markets not previously possible.

[throw310822]

Like any other tech, this will replace some jobs. The question is if it will generate more jobs than it replaces. And my take is that no, intellectual work is finished. In a few years any job that has information as an output will be doable by machines. Tech so far has always freed people from manual work and forced them to climb up the ladder of education and intellectual and creative work, where machines had no reach. Now we are perched at the very top of the ladder and machines are climbing the last steps. There's nowhere else to go in that direction. The kinds of work that will be spared are those that require embodiment and physical interaction.

[vusjandus23857]

Kinda like blockchain right? it's only been a decade, we're still trying to absorb it.

[throw310822]

Kinda like any invention after two years: the telephone in 1878, radio in 1892, airplanes in 1905, computers in 1947, the internet and web in 1992... Had they changed the world yet? No, just stupid hype!