[rezokun]

Well, that's what I'm talking about. These web standards are not for real use, but for idealists who do not develop real products. And because of their idealistic desires, we ended up with a fragmented ecosystem and made the life of developers more difficult. Good job.

[wolvesechoes]

By 'real product' you mean yet another generic 'web app' that does the same as other hundred generic 'web apps' but its marketing team says differently?

[rezokun]

By 'real product' I mean real existing product in real world, not in the fantasies of native_js witnesses.