[ilaksh]

I also believe that gpt-4o was originally called gpt-5. If you look at the image generation on their website from gpt-4o which has not been released, I believe that along with the voice caused Ilya to declare mission accomplished (AGI) and that is why there was a coup. The coup failed because no one wanted to wrap up the company or change the way it operated because they would lose a lot of money.

The reason the name was changed was because there was a big public scare about gpt-5 taking over and so Altman had to promise not to release gpt-5 soon. So they changed the name to gpt-4o (omni). Which is A) obviously dramatically a different architecture, B) a huge step up in capabilities (most still unreleased) C) very general purpose. Because of A) and B), this should obviously be a new major version (5).

Yes, this is speculation, but it's very obvious speculation to me. It's weird for me that most people not only don't share this view but seem to absolutely hate when I say it.

[christianqchung]

I don't hate this speculation, I just don't buy it at all. 4o's about the same in terms of reasoning as 4. People don't find the text abilities that much more usable over 4 (at least on the LMS leaderboard). It's faster and has audio2audio capabilities alongside new native image stuff I think, but how exactly is that AGI if 4 isn't? These models understanding and reasoning ability is still far too weak to do any serious economic shifts yet.

[ilaksh]

Scroll to Explorations of Capabilities: https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/

That combined with the voice was probably considered AGI by Ilya.

[christianqchung]

Yes, I've seen this. Read my comment.

[Rastonbury]

It's speculation with no basis at all, OAI has a track record of releasing half step models and 4o is no different just like 3 to 3.5 and the numerous subsequent 3.5 releases.

If you've used 4 and 4o they are too similar for 4o to have been trained from scratch