[mort96]

I don't generally see front-page news about their huge contributions to the WebKit, LLVM or Swift projects (yes Swift is transitioning to being an Apple thing to its own separate project from what I understand). The only reason this contribution is news is that Apple doesn't typically contribute to FreeBSD, not that Apple doesn't typically contribute to open source.

Not that you're wrong, they're resting on a vast amount of free labour from the open source community. Though that's not exactly uncommon.

[mdhb]

Reaching for WebKit and Swift as some kind of counterpoint really highlights exactly what I’m talking about here rather than rebuts anything I think.

I mean sure they are technically open source but they are very much Apple things. I’m talking about contributing to the wider ecosystem which I think they do very very little of.