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by elric 729 days ago
I wish there was a way for EU citizens to punish the council this behaviour. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be anything in place for that.
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There is: EU citizens can engage their peers in dialogue on how this behaviour is terrible and they can try their darnedest to convince their peers to never vote for politicians who are part of the problem.
Yes that will work. Just like referendums work in the Netherlands for example. 90% the population vote in a referumdum against a particular agreement. The government voted for it anyway and then got rid of referendums.

That's how effective and democratic this all is.

Could you be more specific which case this was?
I would prefer to have decentralised government. This centralised rules for millions doesn't work and eventually escalate badly.

Just because we give up our responsibility to electorate in hope that they solve our problems. How could they possibly do that for millions of individuals with different problems and needs?

You can vote for a different president/prime minister.
Sure, I can vote people into office, and after their tenure they disappear. But I can't vote their incompetent arses out of offices or prevent them from ever getting elected again when they display blatant disregard for human rights.
Yeah my idea was people need a positiv or a negative vote. Honestly I would mostly vote negative also against a Candidate.
Idea of voting - giving up our responsibility to electorate - is wrong in scale like centralised EU.

You cannot solve problems for millions idividuals by centralised regulations.

What if people choose their governments over more pressing concerns than $SCARE_QUOTE_PHRASE to defeat $STRAWMAN?
thats about as indirect as it goes
Replace your national government during national elections.
Your vote doesn't matter and most likely wont change anything.

Divide and conquer.

There is: stop electing the people that make these decisions in positions that can land them in the EU Council.
I wish that we had this possibility, but here in France the bad political parties have strong regulatory barriers to prevent independent and need comers to be candidate or have a chance to be president and sometimes parlement members...
Same here in Germany. Parties need at least 5% of the vote to get elected into Parlament. That’s 2-4 million votes every year straight into the trash
Your vote alone doesn't change anything.
Yet, you should still vote.
I should do whatever I find useful. Voting for unknown electorate funded by involuntary collected money it is not.