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by hwillis 729 days ago
1. where's the case law that makes it apply to corporations?

2. how is 100x the crime excessive, but $150,000 per pirated song isn't? That's a lot more than 100x the cost of a song.

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The $150K/song isn't a government fine, but rather statutory damages awarded to the plaintiff (the copyright holder), so it isn't limited by the prohibition on Excessive Fines.
It was also never awarded - it's a made-up number.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_Unit...

Waters-Pierce Oil Co. v. Texas, 212 U.S. 86 (1909)

> Where a state antitrust law fixed penalties at $5,000 a day, and, after the verdict is guilty for over 300 days, a defendant corporation was fined over $1,600,000, this Court will not hold that the fine is so excessive as to amount to a deprivation of property without due process of law where it appears that the business was extensive and profitable during the period of violation and that the corporation has over $40,000,000 of assets and has declared dividends amounting to several hundred percent

Seems like it would be acceptable to fine Amazon 100x more then