[keiferski]

Definitely used to be more common, but it wasn’t as if everyone was one of those things. My point was more that people were a bit tougher then, as they had more difficult everyday lives.

[relaxing]

You’re not tougher if you’re harming yourself or others to cope.

[keiferski]

The idea that everyone prior to contemporary times was harming themselves or others to cope is nonsense.

[relaxing]

I think we’re talking about some sort of population average. A median New Yorker.