[dTal]

I know tone is hard to read over text but I'm honestly baffled how you got "very angry" from my comment. I'm simply responding? Nobody claims that vegan leather is perfect but veganism is about making a best effort. Objecting to pleather on the grounds of "microplastics" seems like an unreasonably high standard. Are we also to deny that lettuce is vegan because slugs get killed? Defining "vegan" in such a way that nothing is vegan is counterproductive.

[neuralRiot]

I can easily clear up the difference, “vegan” leather can or cannot harm animals you cannot be sure “if” or how much, real leather on the other hand cannot exist without a dead animal. As a vegan I usually find these type of comments more like a defensive “you’re not better than me” same as when they tell you that avocados and almond milk use a lot of water and iphones are made using child labor.

[happymellon]

There are other options.

The murder of an animal is bad.

The death of all living things is also bad. Why do people feel the need to defend shitty plastics?

[neuralRiot]

For leather, meat, dairy there is already a dead animal, for plastics might be in the future, maybe not. If you focus purely on the environmental “superiority” of leather remember also that it is a byproduct of factory farming and that its production is not as “environmentally friendly” as it looks at first.