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by cherryteastain 733 days ago
Want to check how many died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria between 2001 and now as a direct consequence of Western military action, versus how many people the PLA killed in foreign interventions in the same period?

Hint: the former - hundreds of thousands, the latter - zero
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dist-epoch 733 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong:

> Mao's policies were responsible for a vast number of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions, and his government has been described as totalitarian.

I guess according to you killing your own people shouldn't be counted.

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WhackyIdeas 733 days ago
Surveillance on internet use in China probably results in many visits to forced labour camps. Or worse.

Imagine the Chinese people agreed and voted for their great firewall, wouldn’t we all think they were fooled into sabotaging their own freedom?

But they never had the chance to oppose it. We do. And so who are the real dummies.

With how popular Trump is in the states, that makes me think dictatorship is just around the corner. Settling scores is coming.

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tekknik 732 days ago
Interesting you claim Trump is a dictator, you must’ve forgotten the attempts by the left here to remove parts of our constitution, including for free speech and consistently remove freedoms when one person screws it up. Another example, every car having interlock devices.
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cherryteastain 733 days ago
Mao Zedong's CCP is as relevant to the present discussion as say Adolf Hitler, US treatment of Native Americans or British/French/Spanish colonialism. All awful, yet not awfully relevant.
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zirgs 733 days ago
NSDAP hasn't been in power in Germany for like 80 years now. Meanwhile Mao's CCP is still in power and they haven't disowned him.
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WhackyIdeas 733 days ago
And indirect, through the use of manufactured ‘uprisings’ which the West are great at.

But really, you can go back many more decades than that. Innocent lives are not something the West (especially USA) have historically valued.

I hate bashing the West all the time, but come on, we aren’t the good guys in the world. And it’s time we own up to who we are. I have ffs. And I do wonder if the world would have been a more peaceful place if we collectively had more soul.

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