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by jasonvorhe 732 days ago
I have a hard time believing their transparency promises if I can't even easily figure out who is in charge of the company behind their social product. adieuu.com doesn't work.

> Your individual data is never sold, and all of your created content can be removed or exported at any time.

Oh nice, so they're just selling aggregated data.

> While we are registered as a for-profit company, we intend to operate closer to a "B-Corp": our goal is to encourage positive social change and be accountable to all stakeholders (our users), not just shareholders, and set an example for radical transparency in our business operations.

So they're not a non-profit but you will attempt to be somewhat non-profit while being for-profit. Sounds... dubious at best.

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B-Corps are for-profit companies that have to meet high standards as audited by a third party.

sounds they want all the benefits of looking like a transparent and ethical business without having to be accountable

Hi, Jason - I'm Andrew, one of Adieuu's cofounders. Totally valid point re:transparency. We've been in stealth for a bit and just launched our waitlist a couple days ago, shared it with a few friends, etc. We weren't expecting to start blasting things out for a few weeks, we're still setting up our company's site, LI, etc. Was definitely not expecting it to end up on HN this quick before we had our stuff up, this is a total surprise to me. What you said about transparency is exactly what I was thinking when we published the waitlist (horrible irony in preaching tranparency and not having a web presence yet), but figured we had a bit more time to get things up before people started seeing it. Lesson learned.

I'm adding some info about Adieuu below in the meantime - happy to answer other questions you might have. There's a couple things we're still a little quiet on til we get close to launch, but as much as possible I'm happy to be an open book.

re: selling data: We worded it this way because we haven't run the copy by any attorneys and I wasn't sure what all fell under "selling data". To be clear on the spirit/intent of the wording - we have no intention of selling any user data, period.

Non-Profit/For-Profit: Our founding team has never run non-profits before, so for-profit is more of our wheelhouse. It seems to us (naive as we are about Non-Profits) like handling monetization and what we can do, sell, etc (payments vs donations, etc) is more straightforward in for-profit. Strong opinions loosely held - it's on our list of todos to research this more; this isn't something any of our current mentors know much about, so if you happen to know anyone you think might be open to educating me I'm all ears. We're early enough we can certainly swap our structure around to whatever is best.

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Sorry for the long post, hope the above is helpful - if not, please say so and I'm happy to discuss more. Until we get more about Adieuu live on the web, LI, etc, here's some quick details (ask away if you have specific q's, I'm happy to answer):

- Two cofounders: myself (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adefee/), Lexi Sprague (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexisprague/). Not our first co, and much of our careers have been in/around privacy & security (something we're passionate about).

- Team size < 5.

- Based in US.

- No funding raised to-date (no present need or rush to do so).

- No revenue from Equal yet (product not yet launched).

[edited typo, wording for clarity]

Thanks for the friendly reply, mate! I wasn't trying to be rude, it all just seemed a bit odd. I've got a better impression of that project now and I wish you and your team all the best.