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by 7bit 732 days ago
The two are not related. Signal has no proper backup and restore, otherwise you could have restored.mulziple times over. It's one of the things that piss me off about signal. Just give me a fucking Backup that I can restore on android and iPhone and desktop alike!
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fiddlerwoaroof 732 days ago
They are related: even if Signal had a backup, you’d have to have some way to recover the key when you lose your device. For example, Matrix does offer backups but you need a key to decrypt the backup if you lose access to all your verified devices.

Without some easy to use out-of-band key backup solution, an E2EE server backup is no backup at all.

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fl0id 732 days ago
But it’s not related to this story. Nobody prevents you from using services that do not operate like signal (and esp with desktop it is now very easy to backup your messages) Just use those. This is just about whether sth like signal should be allowed to exist.
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fiddlerwoaroof 732 days ago
The GP of my post was:

> After losing my phone and not having a way to recover a lot of data, I've come to the realization that I don't want end to end encryption.

Effective backups and key management are 100% related to this thread

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cootsnuck 731 days ago
I'm confused by this thread. Signal does have backup options (just not on every platform). https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Ba...

If you have an Android device you can literally backup your Signal message history and move it wherever you want.

I think Windows has an unofficial option. But yea you're out of luck on macOS and iOS it seems.

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