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by kerkeslager 731 days ago
> Are you seriously saying that you feel the way to get people to help your cause is to screw them over?

No, I'm saying that we don't need rich people to help our cause, because non-rich people are the super majority.

> And yet, they must be. The actual rich are immune from house occupations. Their houses are either in private enclaves where you can't possibly get in, or in the case of standalone houses they have private security coverage where you can't possibly get in.

There's a lot of rich between "private enclave with security force" and middle class that can't afford a second home to sit empty that you're ignoring.

Sure, multibillionaires are above it all. But I think you're drastically underestimating how rich one has to be to have even one empty home. If you own the home you live in you're already on the upper side of middle class. And if someone breaks into the house you live in, there's no place in the world where that person has legal protections.

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> No, I'm saying that we don't need rich people to help our cause, because non-rich people are the super majority.

So, we agree on that.

We just have different perceptions of who "the rich" are.

A software engineer making $100K/yr (in a low cost of living part of the US, not in silicon valley) is not "the rich", but these people often have multiple apartments. I know first hand since many my of my friends are in this demographic.

> Sure, multibillionaires are above it all.

It doesn't take a multibillionaire to own more than one house/apt. It just takes a middle class income person in many parts of the country.

> And if someone breaks into the house you live in, there's no place in the world where that person has legal protections.

Ended up watching a few news reports from Spain to understand these home invasions better.

Here's one example where an 80 year old woman left the house she was actively living in for only two days to visit her son elsewhere. After coming back two days later the house had been invaded. The police say they can't do anything. That they supposedly have to wait 24 hours (then changed to 48 hours) and start a judicial process. Even though this was her primary residence and was only gone two days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OudfBAUR0Mk