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by mnsc 731 days ago
So you would be OK if I used "abducted and gang raped for so long that you come out seemingly alive and physically intact but your mind has broke and you enter a catatonic state and can't do a handover" as an example? Because if you are not one of those "sensitive people" you should be able to focus on the "can't do a handover" part of the scenario and not get caught up in the gruesome part?

And before you ask, yes I enjoy being overly graphic like this on the pseudonumoyous internet to exaggerate my points but I wouldn't do this irl. That is hypocritical of me.

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Depends if aliens were attractive?
Yeah I realize that "abducted" could suggest aliens, I was thinking more along the lines of Mexican drug cartel style abduction where your raping and being left alive is a wake up call to your partner in the police force that has turned the wrong stones. And the dudes doing the raping is not pretty. But the point is you are not able to do a proper handover, remember?
Why do you feel the need to go into details? "bus factor" is well known concept, it doesn't focus on details how the head disintegrates etc.
See my other reply...
The fact that you only respond like this anonymously should answer your original question/not-a-question.

from a more practical perspective: No, because you're replacing a well-understood metaphor with something that is unknown, juvenile and stupid, removing the value we get from shared language constructs.

By exaggerating the example and moving out of shared constructs I was trying to get wegfaw... to see how it is to be "annoyingly sensitive". That even though "hit by a bus" is "well-understood", it could still invoke very graphic memories if for example someone actually has lost someone in a bus accident. Sometimes words are not just words.

But i could imagine someone who states that it's his "right" to be as irreverent as he likes to whomever he wants to is not open to the concept of other people's perspective.

And just to be clear, I wasn't saying that you should use my example instead. :D

I am open to other perspectives, but that does not mean I must endorse all of them.

If it makes you feel any better I have given your perspective what I consider to be a fair consideration.

It just happens to violate my reward function.

Well that's all you can do and in that case I misjudged you, sorry about that.
To be honest if you said that in a meeting I would laugh and immediatly want to make friends with you.

For me this sort of signaling isn't a sign of aggressive anticooperation, but a sign to me you see through bullshit, will point out wrongdoings, and will be candid. It doesn't evoke disgust or discomfort. It feels honest and friendly.

In the opposite case, bussiness casual english feels cold and disingenuous to me. Like reading apologies by GPT. I feel it as annoying insincerity. (I give a pass to anyone over 40, and usually find in private they are actually human after all.)

Different strokes.

Well, before everybody got sensitive I'd be OK with that too. It's not even very different from real world teasing talk and examples that were used by actual dev teams before the cult of HR grew.

And of course it's a strawman exaggerated version of the common "hit by a bus" idiom.