[zeeg]

Says who? Sentry has many other types of telemetry and we’ve existed long before OTel. Who are these all knowing humans who say this is what telemetry is? Are they also going to build every collector for every kind of past current telemetry?

The whole idea that some marketing bs has translated to technology fact is why we’re in this mess.

[chipdart]

> Says who?

For starters, it says so right on the tin.

> Sentry has many other types of telemetry and we’ve existed long before OTel.

That's fine. Just because a vendor is missing features it doesn't mean it's bad. It just scratches a specific itch a specific way. That's ok.

> Who are these all knowing humans who say this is what telemetry is?

For starters, anyone who has any first-hand experience with telemetry, either as users or as implementers.

I seriously don't know what point you are trying to make.

[zeeg]

Guess I am unqualified to say that folks who say metrics, logs, and traces are the definition of telemetry is mistaken.

[chipdart]

> Guess I am unqualified to say that folks who say metrics, logs, and traces are the definition of telemetry is mistaken.

I think you're confused. A set of specialized telemetry types is telemetry, and the definition of telemetry is not limited to a subset of soecialied telemetry types. You know, a cat is an animal but the definition of what's an animal is not "a cat".

I recommend you read over the topic. As you seem to complain about anything related to OpenTelemetry, perhaps reading the same answer from other vendors of telemetry systems might spark an epiphany.

https://www.splunk.com/en_us/blog/learn/what-is-telemetry.ht...

[martinsnow]

Are you having a laugh? Sentry doesn't set the industry standards.