[mturmon]

As a geophysicist friend used to say, in complete seriousness, the earthquake prediction problem is really easy to show expertise in.

Give location, time and magnitude. Period.

Have at it. If successful, your results will be noticed.

[teleforce]

That's what we are going to do, if the paper is accepted in reputable journal using public offline data we can probably get grant and people working on the proof of concept for real-time implementation. Believe me to get any grant only with ideas without initial results is close to impossible, I tried a few times before. The fact that earthquake detection and prediction is a public service thing not really commercial, it not possible to get non-government or company interested in their development. I think the best is to get the algorithm and technique being utilized in nationwide IoT bssed earthquake monitoring system for example in China [1].

[1] Chinese Nationwide Earthquake Early Warning System and Its Performance in the 2022 Lushan M6.1 Earthquake:

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/14/17/4269

[max47]

Imagine what health care would look like if scientists and doctors shared that attitude.

This discussion is not about if the current prediction methods are good or not, it's about if we should even try to develop these methods to begin with. How many cancer researchers would there be today if you had to cure one yourself, with no grants or outside ressources before you are even allowed to enter the field? Probably not a lot.

Your argument is a self fullfilling profecy. You justify preventing them to research how to predict earthquake by saying that they have not already predicted one.

Maybe in a couple of decades we will find out that many of the big ones could have been very easily predicted, maybe not. The way things are going, we will never know.

[teleforce]

You raised a very interesting comparison with medical doctors (MD) and cancer, I'd say their attitudes are not much different from the seismologist and geologist, but at least they are more open towards research publication using offline data because we managed to publish several publications. To be honest our algoritm and technique was developed originally for the early detection and prediction of myocardial infarction or heart attack, and the results are very encouraging with high accuracy of more than 99% accuracy, specificity and sensitivity, the main difference is that the data was heart vs seismic . During the beginning of the research, we tried to get permission to get government hospital patients data to check against the well-known biomarker Troponin for several years but we cannot even get the reply until today (not even a negative reply).

Dr. Randall W. Jones with FirstScan cancer product was among the pioneer of cancer screening device, an engineering doctor not an MD, and he even wrote a book on the struggles and endeavours [1]. According to him "Healthcare is in crisis" and “The system is broken".

Based on our initial results using the latest major earthquakes in five earthquake error prone countries based on publicly available offline seismic data, definitely we really can predict the earthquake within several days prior to the main major shocks hopefully preventing many lost of lives, unless we screw up the analysis bigtime. But again that's what peer reviews of papers are very important and critical, but we cannot even get past the all the reputable journal editors that we sent to, in order to get any proper review, c'est la vie.

[1] The Healthcare Disruptor: How An Underdog Inventor And His Companies Are Changing Medicine And Saving Lives:

https://books.forbes.com/books/the-healthcare-disruptor/