[SoftTalker]

> this is not typical

going to sleep between 11PM and 1AM and getting up between 5AM and 6AM is completely typical for a parent with kids in school.

OK 1AM might be pushing it but by the time you eat dinner, help with homework, do chores, get the kids to bed, and take a bit of time for yourself and spouse to decompress, yeah it's easily getting close to 11PM.

Then getting up in time to get dressed, get the kids up, make breakfast, get them to school and get yourself to work, you're probably getting out of bed at aroud 6AM or maybe 7AM at the latest.

[bluefirebrand]

Last I spoke to a sleep doctor, I was told that 6-8 hours is enough sleep for a lot of people.

That would mean 11-5 is is actually enough sleep, as is 12-6

So really the problem with these times is only the incidents when staying up to 1am, or when getting up at 5 after sleeping at midnight

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

You are grabbing the minimum, it depends on the person. I need 8.5 hours, but last weekend I slept 10 and 10. It was great for recovery, I just didn't have any free time

[failuser]

11PM to 6AM is very different from 1AM to 5AM. Parents of little children who need you to wake up multiple times per night have it worse, IMO. And they often report memory problems and overall mental decline.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

I have to force myself to bed at 11 or 1130 because my free time starts between 930 and 10 pm. Lucky I can wake uo at 730, so if I go to bed at 1030pm I'm well rested