[iamthirsty]

> Nobody's ditching the dollar. However Saudi Arabia and China significantly reduced their investment in US bonds lately. Also notice that the interests on US debt come dangerously close to the whole of US government revenue.

Revenue for 2023 was $4.4T[0], debt servicing cost was $624B. This year it's projected to be in the ~800s.

[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/216928/us-government-rev....

[ReptileMan]

I'll bite - how much of this 4.4T revenue is non discretionary spending and how much is the discretionary? Because I think that roughly 25% of USG income was discretionary. Which is quite close to the 800 figure.

[drivebyhooting]

Does the debt servicing include repaying the principal of maturing treasuries or just the interest? I haven’t been able to figure out if the principal is not counted in these numbers because it is getting refinanced by rolling over to new treasuries.

If so, it’s like continuously rolling over an Interest Only loan and taking more and more out over time to refinance the ballooning principal.

[iamthirsty]

It's both, although an extremely low percentage of people, IIRC, actually "cash out", most just roll the funds into a new bond once the previous one matures.

[drivebyhooting]

So you mean 800B includes the principal repayment?

[iamthirsty]

It does, but like I said most people just automatically buy new bonds, instead of actually removing the money from the Government.

[csomar]

As far as I know, only the interest is considered as an expense. The principal is not accounted but I might be corrected.

[Projectiboga]

Discretionary government revenue, is a subset of that total gross revenue.