[tpdly]

Very re-assuring to find this opinion elsewhere. I am absolutely drowning in Liveview. So difficult to /really/ grok. I'm becoming more convinced that it just isn't worth the effort, especially considering the interface will glitch if the user drives through a tunnel.

Meanwhile deadviews + channels is /miles/ better than python/rails/laravel (imho).

[goosejuice]

I'll take liveview over any frontend framework. But it's not either or.

Whether it works for you really depends on your needs. I always hear the offline tradeoff but for most businesses it's not a deal breaker. What % of websites do you use every week where you expect it to work offline?