[cordenll]

I feel like it is pretty bad, although I do noticed that there is a lot off interest in people who can manage self-hosted software using kamal and hetzner for example.

guys from 37 signals are really pushing the post vercel era.

[fendale]

Where are you seeing these sort of roles? Are they labeled as "devops" or something else?

[jack_riminton]

Platform engineers perhaps, that's what my company is hiring for at the moment to get off heroku