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by GeoAtreides 736 days ago
Yes, I expect it to work in the same way instagram works, for example. If a commercial entity started yoinking photos from instagram and using them for commercial purposes, shit will hit the fan.

Again, the fact my user data has been scrapped already doesn't mean it was scrapped legally. I'm ok with HN showing my comments, I'm not ok with anyone else than HN using my user data.
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averageRoyalty 736 days ago
> ommercial entity started yoinking photos from instagram and using them for commercial purposes, shit will hit the fan.

Will it though? I would imagine Meta would block them and then posture with a C&D or a frivolous lawsuit, but if they share the phones you gave them on the public internet, they're publicly consumable right? What law do you feel is broken there?

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GeoAtreides 736 days ago
It's not Meta that would sue them (although they would), it's the copyright owners (the users) that will. Photos or comments, the User retains copyright on their content, and only license it to Meta or YC for specific purposes. Yes, that means Meta/YC and their affiliated companies can use the content for other purposes than displaying it in a browser, but 3rd parties 100% can't.
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senordevnyc 735 days ago
Well, are you going to sue? Are you going to sue Google and Bing and whoever else? Have you even bothered to contact the people at Airtrain to ask them to remove your content? Have you contacted HN to have them delete your account and comments?

Or are you complaining here (ironically) to make a point, but you don't actually care that much?

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shadowgovt 736 days ago
Shit hits the fan because Instagram considers user content a golden goose, and they have a vested interest in not letting it get outside their control. Not because they feel a particular obligation to protect user privacy. That's generally been status quo for every social network.

HN cares a lot less; they're a tech comment site and don't actively discourage people using the dataset gleanable from the contents of the site for novel experimentation.

(Sidebar: I see "scrapped" coming up a lot in these conversations these days. Where is that neologism coming from? I'm familiar with people calling it "scraping" but it seems like the term has drifted for some reason?)

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