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by DEADMINCE 739 days ago
> I think game companies could totally solve this problem a different way, but their incentives are not aligned to do so.

This is your root assumption underlying everything else. This also doesn't make any kind of sense. These companies put a lot of money into trying to stop cheaters. People don't want to play a game that is rampant with cheaters, it's bad for business.

The incentive is there. The incentive is more than there. As are their well reported attempts which end up making some gaming experiences incredibly negative for consumers, reporting in incredibly negative receptions which put a big dent in sales.

To say the incentive is not there is just...silly. Or disingenuous. Either way it's simply not true.

So, again, why hasn't Rockstar or Activision made these trivial modifications to completely and entirely stop cheating serverside? The cheating gives them negative press, hurts sales and turns people away from their software. So why haven't they fixed this since it's so easy?

> Here, I'm genuinely trying to understand your position

You keep repeating this but honestly I think it's bs. My point is clear and been repeated several times. You continue to try and refute the points I make; if you didn't understand my point, you wouldn't be able to do that. Honestly, I think most of your reply here is nothing but noise. Just focus on answering the top part of my reply, because eventually, inevitably your claims will be shown to be false, and the assumptions you rely on will be shown to be incredibly unlikely. I don't expect you to be able to admit that or concede, but I expect it will be entertaining for future readers and useful to those who are unfortunate enough to engage with you in the future.

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I swear it's insane that anyone's this obtuse. Read better. I said companies do not have an incentive to respect users' privacy and autonomy. They have anticheat solutions that work for their customers willing to take that hit. That's not in question here. We're talking through each other because you either can't read or are willfully misunderstanding. You have conflated anticheat with kernel access when the whole argument is about whether it's possible to prevent cheating without it. If you're going to insult people's intelligence it would behoove you to be able to read. This isn't some minor quibble either. Nearly every post you've made has fundamentally missed the point of the one it's replying to. I can either assume you're not arguing in good faith or that your language comprehension is inadequate to communicate meaningfully. Either way this is a waste of both of our time
> I swear it's insane that anyone's this obtuse. Read better.

Arrogance and ad homs, as expected. These particular ad homs giving your recent comments are particularly amusing and ironic though.

> I said companies do not have an incentive to respect users' privacy and autonomy.

Your actual claim, the only claim I care about and stepped in to correct you on, is that all cheating can be solved serverside. That's it. I know you like to write essays in place of giving an answer, but that's the only relevant point here.

> You have conflated anticheat with kernel access when the whole argument is about whether it's possible to prevent cheating without it

The entire argument is refuting the nonsense claim that all cheating can be solved serverside. You've yet to provide any proof of that, demonstrate even reasonably grounds to assume that, and dismissed the numerous real world examples and facts that show that case to be unlikely.

> Nearly every post you've made has fundamentally missed the point of the one it's replying to.

If you really believe that, then that's on you for not being clear at all. I've continually backed up my points and addressed yours, all while you constantly disingenuously claim you don't understand my point, lol.

I've outlined what the main point is above. Hopefully you won't still be confused by it.

So please, stop delaying and procrastinating, and just support your fucking claim so we can be done with this, or grow some balls and admit you were wrong, so I can be done with you.