[wkat4242]

Hmm it's kinda hard competing with the big dinosaurs because enterprises are so incredibly locked into them.

And salesforce at least innovates with modern interfaces. It's not legacy trash like Siebel.

Salesforce is pretty good all things considered. When we had siebel, we'd lock all the new callcenter agents into a sweaty training room for a week, where a boring old guy would endlessly drone on which button to push in which scenario. Unfortunately this was actually needed. It was that bad a product, and it was completely unusable due to all the horizontal scrolling everywhere. It's just as bad as SAP (these guys are also soooo bad at UX).

Salesforce by comparison works a lot like facebook. People grok that naturally.

[RHSman2]

Ex Siebel here. Got out into ‘real’ engineering at the time of Salesforce’s rise with that as a backup plan.

Now fighting to keep Salesforce out of company. Shiny RFP’s of a horizontal service that doesn’t do much that well but appeals to execs.

[RHSman2]

AND trying to get out of SAP shark lock in!!!

The future is bright elsewhere

[altdataseller]

Why do you think Salesforce doesnt do much?

[RHSman2]

The do wide. And lock you in.

[dexwiz]

Ironically Salesforce is filled with Siebel alumni.