[sergiotapia]

Can't say enough good things about Elixir and Phoenix. Now with types coming, it'll get even better.

By the way, you hear a lot about the BEAM and it's power - but in my experience you can go a LONG LONG LONG way before you ever have to even think about that part of your stack. Phoenix does such a tremendous job abstracting that for you. You just get the gainz with no effort. Other parts of the stack also just abstract that for you.

Case in point: Oban. You get powerful, flexible and easy to use background jobs for essentially free. Right there in Postgres, with your Elixir code. It's crazy.

Try it.

[mtndew4brkfst]

I fully agree with you were it not for LiveView, which combined with the marketing obsession around LV, means people who could have glossed over OTP for a while longer are now confronted with it much earlier in their journey, possibly on their first controller route.

Writing robust LiveView flows, and testing them well, is exactly as intellectually complex as writing stateful genservers with multiple non-linear flows and various call/cast entry points. LVs use different jargon and have small convenience layers like async-assigns, but mechanically genservers are literally what they are. I'd say that's crucial to understand well if you want to use them effectively.

Love Oban and miss it deeply in other ecosystems.